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"Martial arts like Japanese Jujitsu, Karate, Kung fu etc focus on self defence and not competition right?"

It depends. The instructor or the association that accredits the dojo, is the one that pulls the strings. I mean, if a certain place advertises it participates in AWUU whatever TKD tournaments all the time, and wins gold medals all the time, then it is probably tournament focused.

So sometimes the training systems give some time to it, other times not. Aikijutsu, for example, has attacks, disarms, and defenses against tanto and swod wielding opponents. However, American thugs don't wield knives and swords the same way as the Japanese, so the techniques you are looking at needs to be modified. Who will modify it? The instructor won't, so you have to. And if you to modify it, then you aren't really learning a purely practical set.

If you want to benefit from a system created solely to deal with modern human threats in the 21st century look at Target Focus Training or Chiron Training by Rory Miller.

"A world where you could randomly jumped or stabbed?"

Wow. Get Heath Ledger's autograph for the Joker the next time you meet one on the street. Criminals are not 100% crazy people. Sometimes they are smart people trying to find out if the costs of their crimes and the risks of accidentally killing someone to ending up in prison would worth the awards should they escape clean. Unless you are in the D.C. universe where there's so many jokers around shanking people and burning the world...You must consider some lifestyle choices or some body languages that provokes an attack.

Almost all the oldest MA have weapon defense. However, like Kokoro said and some great self defense, martial artists in history suggested....weapon defense especially if you don't have a longer stick yourself....doesn't work great. Really great martial artists that probably spent much more dedication than anyone on this site in their entire life themselves admitted that they failed to come up with a perfect solution if you are faced with a weapon and you yourself is unarmed. It's like some old Instructor's classic saying...there's no 'guaranteed' way.

A knife attack can come in so many ways...it's not funny at all. There's no one way to use the knife. And there's no one defense against a blade.

Plus those defenses need at least some really solid understandings already in basics to be comprehensible for you. If you think those things are the type of stuff you can learn after months-5 years of training. It's worth visiting the doctors to check out psychosis.

Not many do, and the styles and training that involve weapons often arm you with the exact same weapon. In my experience it's very rare for a class to really train weapon defense regularly(at the very least once a month) and usually focuses more on empty hand.

I think, from the researches I seen and things that I heard, the armed attacks and multiple opponents are what you really need to fear and practice against when speaking of self defense. When there is a fight one on one without weapons it's usually duel like situations and you can usually get off not fighting by swallowing your pride and walking(or running) away.

Having not found and school that really focuses on neither of the two(empty hand against weapons and multiple opponents) I have resigned to self training these aspects using what I learned in class. But it would be sweet to have a class where these were the focus.

In ninjutsu/bujinkan we do incorporate weapon training.

Edit: If you ask me it all comes down to what's your instructor dedication and knowledge that he'll teach/apply in the class.If you're talking about realism I've had classes on empty hand vs wooden sword or a bokken (over here it's a real world situation cause there are quite a number of incidents of attacker using machete robbing and slashing people), staff training and knives. I think it varies on the types of art and what the instructor willing to teach.

I've had a taekwondo instructor who only does physical and point system scoring never grapples or pressure points or anything street applicable. Later when I join another club (still WTF taekwondo) for the first time in a taekwondo class I learn grapple and pressure point and some other things that are more street applicable compare to my 1st instructor. My second instructor did not learn only taekwondo but he also manage to master some other art can't remember was it aikido or something else. To answer your question it highly depends on the type of art and more importantly the instructor you're under.

I see your point,lots of martial arts that should incorporate knife and gun defensive don't incorporate it because the arts are old,and guns are new. But the greatest instructors acknowledge this and,though not part of the specific syllabus,it's taught regardless. Some examples:

Karate

Here, special emphasis is placed on attack deflection. Most punches or knife lunges are performed straight toward you, not in an arc. Few fighters are stupid enough to try a looping haymaker.Thus, step to the side, creating a lateral line toward the attacker’s arm, strike the attacker’s punch or knife hand, then quickly strike his lower side, belly, or back with your other fist. This is very difficult to defend against, and most likely he will not be able to. Push forward and throw a knee into his quadriceps. This hurts like crazy.

Krav mega:

Emphasis is placed on disarming attackers with both knives and handguns, and turning these weapons on the attacker. It also exclusively trains hand-eye coordination, until defense becomes second nature and does not require thought. And a good Krav Maga instructor can teach all of this to anyone, regardless of athletic prowess, in only 3 to 6 months.

AKBAN

Muto Dori (Mutodori), 無刀捕, ???? ????, taijutsu literally means in Japanese 'No sword capture' but has expanded, in Bujinkan vocabulary, to include all empty hand techniques against all weapons. So AKBAN focuses on both using and defending weaponry. Case closed.

So in answer to your question: weapons defence IS a part of martial arts,but only with either aware instructors or arts specifically focused in that area.By the way,I realise other martial arts teach weapon defence but those three are what came to mind when I read the question.

It's not a formal part of training in Uechi Ryu except for sword defenses.

Now with that said, we include gun defenses and knife defenses as part of our training because it's practical.

Keep in mind though that if someone pulls a weapon on you you're in a bad situation and that unless you're going to be harmed it's best to just turn over your wallet. Of course the best defense is to be aware of your situation and not to get into a situation where a weapon is drawn on you but that's a basic of self defense and not something folks want to hear.

Some martial arts systems teach realistic self defense against weapons and others do not. I think the best bladed weapons defense can be found in many Filipino Martial Arts (FMAs). While, Krav Maga has some pretty good techniques for pistol disarms.

I did jujitsu for a while and it taught us how to defend ourselves from knives and clubs. I think that most martial arts do that.

However in krav maga we are taught not only how to block knife attacks, but how to disarm the enemy and use their weapon against them. In very advanced krav maga taught in the Israel Defense Forces intended for pure combat survival, they teach you how to butt people down with your rifle and use nearby objects such as a pistol or a rock to hit someone unconscious.

I'd say krav maga is your best bet if you want to defend against realistic attacks.

Also some special martial arts focus specifically on fighting with knives or clubs... for example kendo focuses on how to use a samurai sword. The Filipino martial Eskrima focuses on using sticks, knives and improvised weapons.

You may like to give Eskrima a shot.

"Face it we live in the real world where you could be randomly jumped or stabbed"

You started with the worst type of manner by trying to create a false panic situation...A-Z of real self-defense stats with the mentality. Come back with something else, and I will tell you where and how you are going to get a proper weapons defense.

Face it we live in the real world where you could be randomly jumped or stabbed. Martial arts like Japanese Jujitsu, Karate, Kung fu etc focus on self defence and not competition right? So I'm just wondering do these Martial Arts schools incorporate weapon training as well? Like the use of knives and sticks?

Many school will also teach weapons disarms and they should. However, to what level it really depends on the instructor. Most schools if they do teach do not teach it to beginners, It is taught as you advance in your training. Unfortunately not all school are good at teach weapon disarming tactics.

i do disagree with lilith explanation. knife attacks are much more nastier then he explains. i have been cut up quite a bit by them, lucky for me they were amateurs. if it was someone that was trained or knew what they were doing it would have been far worse for me.

1st off if a perons sole intent is to mug you, your life is not worth what little you have in your wallet. if they were going to kill you with a gun they will do that from 10 feet away, if it was a knife they will not stop at one little poke or slash and pause for you to go, they will continue until you disable them or your dead.

yes it is taught in martial arts, its also part of the kata bunkai in kata as well. i more focus on knife defense and weapons other then guns, more because of the example i gave above.

guns have been in use in war since the 14th century. there are limited bunkai in kata.

if you think where you live is a violent place try going to a third world country, in some places they kill you first then rob you. its much easier for them and their is no witnesses that way

In the taekwondo I go to, plus the shotoKai karate both do knife, bat, (even swords/ bottles...) plus grab defences quite a lot....

I would probably expect the others to be similar?

It depends upon the particular school and your level of training. There is no universally enforced standard.

Machete Knife Stick medium peris.

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