Wrestling is only bjj in that they do ground work. Wrestling is about control, bjj is about submission.
Secondly, To say that wrestlers talk down Bjj is also silly. As a wrestler we love the ground. Have a wrestling base makes the transition to bjj easy and faster then the average person taking bjj. They are a perfect mix. Same with judo. one common myth is that judo is really only about throws. WRONG!
Only among idiots is there conflict between bjj and wrestling.
"I don't want to take wrestling, mainly because I don't have the body to do so"
There are all sorts of "bodies" in wrestling. If you have two arms and two legs- scratch that, in GA we have a wrestler named Kyle Maynard who's a congenital amputee. He doesn't have either arms or legs, and he's a wrestler. Your "body" has nothing to do with it. Get that out of your head right now.
"I feel like bjj is something that wrestlers don't really know about and once I get on the matt with them I'll be able to submit them like in a blink of an eye."
Some wrestlers don't know about it. Some do. And if a wrestler is able to get into a position where the BJJ guy can't submit him, he won't get submitted. A lot of pins that wrestlers go for can negate any submission attempts.
I'm not saying you can't submit them. I'm saying don't assume that because they do wrestling and not BJJ that it'll be easy. It won't be.
Train both. Wrestling trains takedowns and clinch grappling better. BJJ trains submissions and bottom defense better. They both offer good top control, although wrestling training tends to make guys better in a "scramble" while BJJ tends to be more systematic and methodical. These days, some of the best BJJ guys in the world are working on their wrestling in order to improve their takedowns and top control. There's no disadvantage to being more skilled.
The goals of the two disciplines are quite different. In "Collegiate" or "Olympic" wrestling, the goal is to score points by takedown or to obtain a "pin" by making the opponent touch both shoulders to the ground, however briefly.
Points can be gained by aggressive play, and lost for sandbagging.
There are no submissions, no locks or chokes.
In BJJ, the goal is to obtain a submission when used in competition. In open matches, strikes are allowed. Kicks are often used to obtain an opening for a takedown. The goal is to control the opponent until an opening exists for a submission move, a joint lock or choke or strangle.
When pure wrestlers started entering UFC-type competitions, they were big and strong and well-conditioned, but they tended to not know how to finish a match. They didn't have any of the submission skills.
It wasn't until they started learning the necessary skills that they began to be successful.
I watched one of the very early UFC matches between one of the Gracies and an Olympic wrestler who had at least 50 pounds on the Brazilian. He threw Gracie around like a rag doll for the first round or so, but had no idea how to gain a submission... And Gracie did....
Here iv'e done both my school ranked AAAA champs bro, so the only difference is in BJJ you can use almost any method to drop any opponent, but free style wrestling is about the same minus the actual strikes, But you CANNOT use anything you learned in BJJ in a wrestling match it's illegal (in the match that is) i got disqualified for it :( but yeah Bjj is much better - considering all the techniques
Wrestlers generally tend to be stronger and more explosive on average, but I think the submission skills from BJJ artists usually gives them the edge.
Just recently I found out that the guy I beat wasn't an actual wrestler. Or even if he was, not a very good one. Hes a liar but hes also my friend so let it slide, also it was a play fight, so I over kind exaggerated when I beat him.....
ANYWAYS, I know that wrestling is similar to bjj or so i've heard..... but the thing is I don't want to take wrestling, mainly because I don't have the body to do so and a lot of wrestlers piss me off (I have nothing against them, I just hate it when they talk down on bjj)
Recently I was talking to a friend about wrestling, I asked if someone like me would be good at wrestling, she said something across the lines of how I coudnl't because of whatever reason, and than I asked about bjj ( this was before I took gjj/bjj). She said something like "..yeah that would be good considering that is less intense then wrestling but not so great compared to it.." or something like that. I feel like bjj is something that wrestlers don't really know about and once I get on the matt with them I'll be able to submit them like in a blink of an eye.
As for going against someone three times your height, I was wondering how to bring down an opponet bigger than you (i'm 5'4 and was going against someone 5'8) because im afraid he might get me into some kind of clinch and use knee strikes against me. I haven't sparred anyone twice my size yet but if I am I would like to get some advice on it before getting into the ring again.
in our school we call people who practice bjj, bjj practioners. But I heard in judo they call them judokas or something like that. Whats the correct term for calling a bjj practioner so that way if I meet someone whos a high rank in bjj or someone from the grace family I can call them by that term out of respect and honor.
